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Number 27, Friday, 21 June 1996
Today's Topics:
apologies
Re: Oh Mercy and Lanois
Dylan and Lanois' #1 hit?
Emmy Lou/Ron Sexsmith
Lyrics - Death of a Train
Missing Dylan/Lanois track
Musicians
Musical and engineering background
Oh Mercy outtakes
Lanois singles
excuse the bad reporting
Dylan's potential 31
Michael Brook/Eno
Fan to Fan
re: Michael Brook/Eno
Lyrics - finally! :-)
Lyrics: The First 3
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[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] From: Kenley Subject: apologies Sorry for missing a week of the Digest; work ended and I am on summer break. Adjustments and elations ensued! Shouldn't happen again. Enjoy this week's long digest. :-) Happy Summer Solstice. [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] From: "Kevin Foss"Date: Sun, 09 Jun 96 13:37:36 -0400 Subject: Re: Oh Mercy and Lanois Nick Jacquet wrote: >A while ago in the summer of '95, driving down the Jasper highway, >the CBC had a interesting 1 hour program on Danny :>. Danny said >even though he was very happy with the Oh Mercy album, he said he >was also very sad because Bobby has never had a number 1 single and >there was one on the Oh Mercy Album. Danny goes on to say that >Bobby would not let him put it on the Album. A few months later I >heard the song at a friends place in Montreal. It was a bit U2ish, >Dylanish and Lanoisish.... > >The Question is anyone else has anything to add to this ? Where is >the track that would have given Bobby a number 1 hit ? The tune is probably "Series of Dreams." Quoting Lanois from the liner notes to the Bootleg Series Vol. 1-3: "I did say that I didn't think certain songs belonged on the record. He took it fine, but he bucked me on a few of those decisions. We did try a few things that didn't make the finish line. That's the least you can do for an artist, show respect for their own ideas. We had four or six songs we recorded and didn't use. One track, "Series of Dreams," was a fantastic, turbulent track that I felt should have been on the record but .. he had the last word." In my opinion the song sounds way too U2-ish (not a positive quality in my mind), and would not have been anywhere near a #1 for Dylan. It is a good song (lyrically) however, and probably would have been a better choice for inclusion on On Mercy than say "Disease of Conceit." The other song left off of Oh Mercy and later released is "Dignity," -Only- Bob's original piano and vocal tracks were retained and the supporting parts were re-recorded (produced by Brendan O' Brien) for release on Greatest Hits V. 3. But the track is still listed as being co-produced by Lanois on the album. N.B. even "Series of Dreams" had overdubs added before release, apparantly without Lanois present. [There are two other tunes from Oh Mercy which circulate, "Born in Time" and "God Knows" -- although only on bootlegs of the Oh Mercy sessions. Lots of outtakes exist of the Oh Mercy sessions (including some tunes with alternate lyrics as well as Series of Dreams/Dignity undubbed and unremixed.) Despite that, to my knowledge two of the six tunes that Lanois mentions as unreleased have never surfaced, and even the titles are unknown.] -Kevin ---- Kevin A. Foss (io20816@maine.maine.edu) ---- [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:55:59 -0400 (EDT) From: AARON TODD ROSSETTO Subject: Dylan and Lanois' #1 hit? > A while ago in the summer of '95, driving down the Jasper highway, > the CBC had a interesting 1 hour program on Danny :>. Danny said Mmm! Anyone got a copy of that? I'd love to hear it. I'll see if the CBC website has anything about it. > even though he was very happy with the Oh Mercy album, he said he > was also very sad because Bobby has never had a number 1 single and > there was one on the Oh Mercy Album. Danny goes on to say that > Bobby would not let him put it on the Album. A few months later I > heard the song at a friends place in Montreal. It was a bit U2ish, > Dylanish and Lanoisish.... I guess you would be talking about "Series Of Dreams", which was the reason I recently (about a year ago) got heavily into Dylan. I was watching MuchMusic and heard this incredible song thinking, "My God, a new U2 song. This is simply amazing!" It had all the criteria--ethereal keyboard word, echoy guitars, heavy drum toms :-). Then I was shocked to learn it was this Dylan song. So, I purchased _Greatest Hits, Vol. 3_ for "Series Of Dreams", and was not one bit surprised to see that the track was produced by Lanois. I knew there was something to my theory! As for it being a number one single, hmmm... that's tough. I don't think it would have made it, actually. Would alternative stations have played it? AOR? I don't hear Dylan getting an awful lot of airplay these days. But to me it's a number one song, and 11 or so albums laters Dylan is a new musical hero of mine, along with (of course) DL, Michael Brook[sp?] et al. I would love to hear some of the _Oh Mercy_ outtakes, available from what I hear on bootleg. There are some songs that were recorded for the disappointing follow-up to OM, _Under The Red Sky_ that were apparently recorded during the OM sessions. "God Knows" and "Born In Time" are the only ones that come to mind, but wouldn't it be a treat to hear them with the Lanois touch? One more thing: A while back, there was some talk of Michael Phillip-Wojewoda on this list. He does quite a bit of work on Jane Siberry's fantastic _When I Was A Boy_. There are tracks on there that are scarily reminiscent of DL's work (e.g. "Love Is Everything"--any Lanois fan could not possibly miss the infinite guitar in that track.) Just my $0.02 worth. Regards, Aaron --- Aaron Rossetto [ar94am@badger.ac.brocku.ca] http://www.cosc.brocku.ca/~ar94am Chinese Food and Bob Dylan rule! "Oh, the flowers of indulgence and the weeds of yesteryear Like criminals, they have choked the breath of conscience and good cheer" - Bob Dylan [][][][][][][][][]][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:48:42 -0700 (PDT) From: soundwel@well.com (Richard Crowl) Subject: Emmy Lou/Ron Sexsmith I was very intrigued when I first heard about the Wrecking Ball album since Emmy Lou had been one of my favorite musicians during the late seventies and DL has been at the top of my list since the late eighties. I was very suprised to hear they'd done an album together.. As much as I really like Wrecking Ball (for sure the best thing she's done in years!) it really sounds more like a Lanois record than a Emmy Lou Harris one to me. I shared Wrecking Ball with a friend who originally introduced me to her music 20 years ago (who didn't know who DL was) and after initally thinking it was weird and over-produced ended up thinking it was great. I guess my point to all this rambling is that while I think WB is a great record-some of Emmy Lou's stuff from the past is also great and she shouldn't be written off as "just" a country artist. While her albums from the 70's had a country twist to them they were several cuts above the usual over-produced,glitzy Nashville stuff that passes for C&W music these days. I'll dig through my LP collection and list my favorites on a future post. I agree that Ron Sexsmith can sound a lot like Jackson Browne sometimes. A little rougher around the edges perhaps (like Jackson before he had voice lessons?) but I think thats what I like about him. Happy Listening all. Rich+ [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 07:45:37 -0500 From: Virginia Wagner Subject: Lyrics - Death of a Train Dear Kenley, I live within sight of the rail lines and many times, as I've looked out the window I've seen big box cars with the words "SOO LINE", so my guess is that is what DL is referring to in Death of a train..."I've been 20 years on that Soo Line, I don't ride that train no more." Take care, Virginia Wagner [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:29:08 +0200 From: Stephen.Fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) Subject: Missing Dylan/Lanois track Bobby would not let him put it on the Album. A few months later I >heard the song at a friends place in Montreal. It was a bit U2ish, >Dylanish and Lanoisish.... You're probably talking about the song 'Series Of Dreams' which was released on the three CD boxset "The Bootleg Series vol. 1-3" in 1991. At Sony they felt it was necessary to add some more keyboards to the Lanois produced track - luckily the end-result still sounded very much like an "Oh Mercy"-track. It was actually released as a single and even though it was accompanied by a very nice video (a first for Bob Dylan - I mean: not his first video but his first good one) it didn't make it to number one (in fact: I don't think it was a hit at all). In my opinion there was a potential hit on "Oh Mercy": the excellent 'Most Of The Time'. This was released as a single as well but it was 'promoted' by a dysmal live-video of the song (which didn't sound like the original at all). Needless to say it didn't become the hit Bob and Daniel deserved to have. The other (known) songs recorded for "Oh Mercy" which didn't end up on the album are 'Dignity', 'Born In Time' and 'God Knows'. 'Born In Time' and 'God Knows' were rerecorded for Bob's next album "Under The Red Sky". 'Dignity' was released on "Greatest Hits vol.3" in a version 'produced' by Brendan O'Brien. This meant he removed all of the backing instruments (which were great on the original version), leaving only Dylan's vocal intact, and then he recorded some drums and guitars on top of it. The result sounds like a very boring Traveling Wilburys-outtake. I guess this shows it's wrong to think you can improve on a Daniel Lanois-track..... All these songs can be heard in their original versions on the bootleg 'The Deeds Of Mercy' and what a joy it is! Let's keep our fingers crossed that Bob will work with Daniel Lanois again. Hope this helps, Daniel Baars. [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:52:56 -0700 From: Carsten Kroon Subject: Lanois singles Hello fellow Lanois lovers. I bought the Ron Sexsmith cd and didn't like it. I hear its hard to find. Does anyone want to buy or trade for mine?? I am waiting very impatiently for DL's next solo album. If anyone hears anything about it, please let us all know!!! Does anyone have any Lanois cd singles? I will pay top dollar! Thanks. Carsten [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:48:34 +0100 From: yun@alumni.caltech.edu (Shu-Shu Loh) Subject: excuse the bad reporting Excuse me for the bad reporting but Emmylou is on the cover of this fat magazine (about the size of those lit. magazines like Story or Glimmer Train). I don't know what the magazine is called--it begins with a "S", something like Spectrum or something (the font was horrible) but it's a magazine that gives reviews of CDs in all genres. There is a Q & A article on her about "Wrecking Ball." I didn't read the article, because the questions were like "Sweet Old World is a really good song. . " Emmy comments, "Waltz Across Texas Tonight is a really good song. ." Emmy comments. But unlike the Dirty Linen article that encompassed her entire career, this interview seemed exclusively for "Wrecking Ball." I found this magazine at Barnes & Noble. [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 01:46:24 -0700 (MST) From: "Antonio S Abeyta" <21113@ef.gc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Dylan's potential #1 >A while ago in the summer of '95, driving down the Jasper highway, >the CBC had a interesting 1 hour program on Danny :>. Danny said >even though he was very happy with the Oh Mercy album, he said he >was also very sad because Bobby has never had a number 1 single and >there was one on the Oh Mercy Album. Danny goes on to say that >Bobby would not let him put it on the Album. A few months later I >heard the song at a friends place in Montreal. It was a bit U2ish, >Dylanish and Lanoisish.... > >The Question is anyone else has anything to add to this ? Where is >the track that would have given Bobby a number 1 hit ? Perhaps he was talking about "Series of Dreams" - a snippet of it can be found on the Lanois "Rocky World" video. I heard Dan talking about this song once saying that it was HIS decision not to put it on the record because it sounded too much like U2, and he was saying that in retrospect, it was a big mistake not to put it on. Eventually, it came out on Dylan's 'Greatest Hits 3' or something like that - about a year ago, I think - along with one or two other 'Oh Mercy' out-takes. Nice song - and nifty video! Ant [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 02:13:25 -0700 (MST) From: "Antonio S Abeyta" <21113@ef.gc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Michael Brook/Eno >Have you checked out the the other earlier DL/MB collabs ie the ones icl >Mr Eno?? I'm still trying to get ahold of "Cobalt Blue" as I've heard that this is one of Brook's best. I had "Hybrid" for about a week before I lost it (long story) and haven't replaced it yet... Does anyone have the soundtrack to the movie "Captive" that Brook did with the Edge? (from U2) Very interesting! You can definitely pick out what may be Lanois influence in both artists' work. It kind of reminds me of Eno and David Byrne's "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts," another recommended album. I'll give fair warning, though - this album may be a little scary (but in an Eno sort of way :) ) to some. The album is pure genius, IMO, expecially considering that it was recorded nearly 17 years ago (!) and the sounds on it are incredible. Don't go by the first song, though - listen to the whole thing. Try it! :) Speaking of Eno, though - does anyone have the recent U2/Eno CD "Passengers"? Opinions? Too much to say and afraid to bore people - Ant :) [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:50:04 +0000 From: Alan Dean Subject: FAN TO FAN Hi In your song list under" Lotta love to give " you have a ? mark for what should be Wasaga Beach {probably the wrong spelling but a popular resort in Ontario Canada} Guess you are a huge fan, his music great, enriching ,and touches my soul. Any ideas when his next release will be? Also what part of the world are you in?? A D -- Alan Dean Photography alandean@cyberus.ca [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] From: Kenley Subject: Re: Michael Brook/Eno Two people I listen to regularly and love. Cobault Blue is a wonderful CD and my introduction to Michael Brook. I actually got turned on to MB through my King Crimson/Robert Fripp habit. Hybrid is a little quieter than MB's other stuff. >Speaking of Eno, though - does anyone have the recent U2/Eno CD >"Passengers"? Opinions? I have the Passengers CD and love this one two. U2 is one of my favorite pop groups and what more needs to be said about Eno (the genius). It lulls in some areas but it has some great tunes on it. If like Eno and you can tolerate U2, you should at least check out the CD. [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:46:50 -0700 (MST) From: "Antonio S Abeyta" <21113@ef.gc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Lyrics - finally! :) Okay everyone - here's the deal with the lyrics: Juan and I have gone through and updated them to everyone's suggestions - these are as complete as we can get. There were sometimes several different suggestions for some parts - I guess everyone hears some things differently :) - so we took what sounded best, based both on the suggestions and repeated listenings (!). If everything is okay with Kenley, we'll post 3 lyrics to each newsletter and you guys can tear them apart again and hopefully clear up any question marks. *** *** PLEASE send your suggestions for the French lyrics directly to Juan (juani@intergate.bc.ca) and for the English lyrics to me (21113@ef.gc.maricopa.edu) and NOT to the list - Save Kenley from having to deal with all of them! :) We'll go in order of the albums - the first 3 to follow. Thanks to EVERYONE for the help!! Ant [Ant & Juan -- You guys are awesome! Great solution. I will try to hold onto any lyric suggestions I recieve until they come up in the discussion. We may not get to three per week; maybe do it every other week. Or maybe sending out a "needs comment" version one week and then a "final version" the next week? Let me know. Once again...this is great!] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:55:30 -0700 (MST) From: "Antonio S Abeyta" <21113@ef.gc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Lyrics: The First 3 ^^Remember - French suggestions to Juani (juani@intergate.bc.ca) and ^^English suggestions to Ant (21113@ef.gc.maricopa.edu) - thanks! ***Still Water Sad eyes, sad eyes Where're you going with that confidence? Sad eyes, sad eyes Where're you going with that confidence? I'm going to where the boats go by Caledonia river flow so wide I'm going to where the boats go by Caledonia river flow so wide Still water - Laying over Still water - Laying over Still water - Laying over Caledonia river oh, so wide Wild eyes in the wilderness Where're you going with the devil in hand? Wild eyes in the wilderness Where're you going with the devil in hand? I'm going to build the bridges high for working money, for working money I'm going to climb the bridges high Caledonia brother far away Still water - I'm laying over Still water - Lay my body down over Still water - Laying over Caledonia river far away... Sad eyes in the weary night Have you seen your brother, have you seen your brother? Waiting by the river (???) Caledonia river oh, so wide Going to where the rain falls Look for my brother, look for my brother Going to where the rain falls Caledonia river far away Still water - Laying over Still water - Lay my body down Still water - Laying over Caledonia river far away... ***The Maker Oh, oh deep water, black and cold like the night I stand with arms wide open, I've run a twisted line I'm a stranger in the eyes of the Maker I could not see for the fog in my eyes I could not feel for the fear in my life And from across the great divide, In the distance I saw a light Jean Baptiste's walking to me with the Maker My body is bent and broken by long and dangerous sleep I can't work the fields of Abraham and turn my head away I'm not a stranger in the hands of the Maker Brother John, have you seen the homeless daughters Standing there with broken wings I have seen the flaming swords there over east of the eden Burning in the eyes of the Maker Burning in the eyes of the Maker Burning in the eyes of the Maker... Oh, river rise from your sleep... ***O Marie (Il) y a quelqu'un qui appelle mon nom (2x) On travail aujourd'hui, on travail sous la pluie On travaille au tabac, hostie! Mes mains sont noires a cochon (2x) trente jours, et trente nuits On travail au tabac, hostie! Oui ma blonde elle attend apres mois (2x) Je vais retourner avec beaucoup d'argent On travail au tabac, hostie! Oh driver donne moi une chance (2x) Avez-vous du feu pour ma cigarette? On travail au tabac, hostie! Ce soir, on va au village (Oui, 2x) Chanter le chanson, boire la boisson On travail au tabac, hostie! O Marie, j'ai mal a la tete (2x) Donnez nous l'esprit, l'esprit du corps On travail au tabac, Marie Le bleu du ciel a change (Oui, 2x) Apres quarante jours et quarante nuits On ne peut pas travailler au tabac Il y a quelqu'un qui appelle mon nom (2x) On travail aujourd'hui, on travail sous la pluie On travail au tabac... ### [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] The views expressed in ACADIE are those of the individual authors only. ACADIE is released for the personal use of readers. No commercial use may be made of the material unless permission is granted by the author. Kenley Neufeld, ACADIE editor [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]