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The Internet newsletter for Daniel Lanois
Number 195, Sunday 17 June 2001
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 12:20:55 -0700
From: Erok66@aol.com
Subject: Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 194
In a message dated 6/3/01 1:17:30 PM, lanois@sfbayconcerts.com writes:
>Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 06:58:28 -0700
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>From: "Jeremy Lyseng"
>Subject: HELP!!!
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>Hi, my name's JJ. I am a lanois Freak! I am looking for two videos:
>"building the wreckingball", and Sessions at west 54th. Can anyone help?
>PLEASE!?
Check your cable and satellite TV listings for repeats of Sessions at West
54th on the TRIO channel. They just started about a month ago. I caught the
Lanois /Emmylou show about 2-3 weeks ago.
re: Springsteen
I think most people in the music biz take Dave Marsh's opinions regarding
Springsteen with a grain of salt, as they should. I don't know if she still
does, but at one point Marsh's wife worked for Springsteen's manager, Jon
Landau. Not much objectivity happening there.
I hope that Lanois does focus his energy on his own music right now. If he's
going to produce any one soon I hope it's someone a little less established
than guys like Springsteen and Jagger. I'd love to hear Lanois work with
bands like Sigur Ros or Mercury Rev.
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 20:23:48 -0700
From: Art Hansen
Subject: The article
Hey thanks for the article on Dan. It was great. As I have said in the
past, I am more of an Eno fan than a Lanois fan, but the article in ACADIE
194 helped me to understand Dan better.
As for Dave Marsh, thinking Dan Lanois sucks (Eno too), because of his slow
pompous style and ruing the day that Lanois should ever produce a
Springsteen album, I wonder if he has ever heard Bruce's 1982 album,
Nebraska, a haunting album not unlike Dan's for the Beauty of Wynona. Did
Bruce invent "Unplugged"?
Ahh, we all have our own taste. I love the works that Eno and Lanois have
done together, with artists like U2, Harold Budd and John Hassell. Slow,
moody, pompous???? Ah, Dave Marsh just doesn't understand.
Art Hansen
Beaver Dam, Wisconsin
(Yes, Beaver Dam, just like in Death of a Train).
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the National Campaign for Tolerance
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:13:15 -0700
From: sswart
Subject: Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 194
Maybe Dave Marsh prefers uptempo poppy stuff like aerosmith doing song
factory tunes by the likes of Diane Warren. It really doesn't take a
rocket scientist to see what Daniel Lanois brings to a project. And even
older artists LIKE to collaborate so that they can get a fresh outlook
and keep from getting stale. Oh sorry - we're just a bunch of ameteur
fans and your enlightened opinion, Mr. Marsh is the stuff of truth.
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:13:16 -0700
From: Mike Lanois
Subject: RE: ACADIE Digest, Number 194
Although the mini-novels are wonderfully informing, there is yet to be seen
anything from the hand of Dan himself. I've tried to contact him on several
different occasions, and to no avail. It seems that our solitary meeting in
New Orleans a while ago is the only contact that he wishes to maintain with
family, other than immediate, and fans. What he is doing and what his plans
are would be far better received and of far more interest if there were some
direct contact. Although this news letter is written (and in some instances
rather elaborately composed) with the idea in mind of fan dialog, it is
really no more than a serial newspaper that is sent electronically. I again
suggest that Dan himself address his fans. I am aware that his music is all
important to him, and that his business affairs consume much of his time.
That data aside, I still must stand by my original thought. I believe that
a music artist's claim to fame is derived by people listening and
recognizing his or her melodies and lyrics and associating them with an
image of the artist. Movies, videos, newspapers, and fan magazines or
letters are all superficial marketing tools used as media to purvey an image
and make a buck. The talent is far above those and should, if worthy, stand
on its own. A news letter, such as this one, would hold far more
credibility if the dialog was with Dan, rather than those impressed with
their own perceptions of him or what he may be thinking. I doubt that he
even reads this letter. If he does, it would be nice to see him in print.
It would be even nicer if he spoke to his cousins, no matter how removed or
distant. The saying "Blood is thicker than water.", seems to hold little
weight. Having met him and spoken with him, I respect him as an artist. As
a distant cousin, I don't see a lot of (or any thought) for those outside
his immediate field of view.
If you read this Dan, take a little time to talk to the people who support
your efforts. It would be well received. You may even give some thought to
your extended family, who are interested in what you're doing.
Respectfully submitted,
M.F. Lanois
Pewaukee, WI.
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:13:16 -0700
From: "Souad Ouali"
Subject: Gwen Smith's article
Hi
Thank you Kenley for obtaining this article and made it known to everyone in
the Acadie Newsletter. I find this article good and made it know to its
author.
I wanted to thank you too because you made a really good work on the Acadie
Newsletter and in the unofficial DL 's site. I am sure you're a lot of time
on it and I wanted to make you know I appreciate that.
If you need something special about the site, ask and I will see if I can do
sommething. Do not hesitate, I am offering help.
A special hello to Kevin, Erin and Zo=E9 if there 're reading this.
Until next time.
Souad.
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:13:16 -0700
From: Richard M Smith
Subject: Re: Lanois, Springsteen and Lowe
>>Just wanted to let everyone know there is a heated
>>debate going on at a Springsteen newsgroup about
>>whether Daniel should/would produce the next
>>Bruce album.
Ye gods, NO! I like Lanois a great deal - and I like
Springsteen a great deal, but there are some things
that can't be mixed. IMO Daniel Lanois is perhaps a
little more esoteric than Bruce Springsteen and unless
DL would shelve his `signature style`, it probably
wouldn't work. If Brooooce is looking for a new
producer I'd probably suggest Nick Lowe as main
candidate.
Richard
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:31:20 -0700
From: Richmond A Powers
Subject: Bruce & Dan response
EDITORS NOTE: Sent to Dave and the ACADIE mailing list. Please recognize that
Dave is not a member of the ACADIE mailing list. A thoughtful response.
*****
Dear Dave,
Just read your posting on the ACADIE website and felt just as compelled to
counter your comments. While I am a fan of Bruce's music, his non-commercial
sell-out music, I would find it interesting for he & Daniel Lanois to
combine creative forces and explore the possibilities. It wouldn't be that
far of a stretch for either. The Boss' last work of true merit, "Ghost of
Tom Joad" showed us once again what he is capable of creating when not
burdened by the thought of selling out arenas or creating chart topping
songs that are made for high school dances or backseat juvenilia sexual
explorations. At some point creative preferences change and one can see in
his music that awareness of legacy and staying true to the song, the story,
and the soul, all of which is at the core of Lanois' music, whether it
contains lyrics or not. And while Bruce's work is untouchable by many he has
yet to exceed the magnitude of Bob Dylan, and I imagine he would be quick to
admit to that fact as a matter of sheer admiration for this man and his
work. And if Bob Dylan, of all people, can seek out Daniel Lanois to
collaborate, then certainly Bruce, aware of the Lanois' organic touch to
those albums, is optimistic about what he can offer. You are quite amiss in
your criticism of Lanois' production and creative input. Perhaps I've had
the blessing of listening to numerous interviews with several whom have
worked with Lanois and each have been quite clear on what he has brought to
the table. Tom Waits has even commented on how much he admires the sounds
Lanois is able to produce. Hell, the guy isn't just sitting behind the sound
bar thumbing dials, he's out on the floor singing, playing a multitude of
instruments as well as writing/co-writing songs... read the liners, Dave...
there's magic there.
There were several stark tracks from "Nebraska" and "...Joad" that Lanois
could have wrapped his atmospheric, dark highway, forlorn guitar and
melodies around without sacrificing the integrity of Bruce's words or voice.
It is dangerous for anyone to pin down an artist and say what genre or
degree of sound they should be creating. To say "Wrecking Ball" is not an
Emmylou record, or "Teatro" is not a Willie Nelson record is also to say
"Revolver" or "Magical Mystery Tour" are not Beatles records for they bear
little resemblance to "Help!" and other earlier recordings. An artist must
experiment and explore in hope of stumbling upon the truth in which they
ultimately seek through their art. Ironically, Emmylou's latest, "Red Dirt
Girl", produced by the Lanois influence Malcolm Burn, boasts both Bruce and
his wife on the song, "Tragedy" and nothing is lost by their appearance.
The moment an artist is pigeon-holed and forced to create a re-tread of his
own work he ceases to be a credible artist but a sellout for fans like
yourself. If Van Gogh had listened to critics he would have become the
Thomas Kincaid of his time, painting pretty, familiar pictures that offer no
exploration of the soul but are safe for easy consumption by those who
simply are afraid to think, feel and explore their own humanity. It comes
down to credibility... something that Bruce knows, but not all of his albums
know. And as for the consistent work Lanois has either produced or
performed, they'll stand the test of time and be around long after the
graveled yelp of "Born In The USA" or "War" has left the atmosphere.
If this Lanois/Springsteen union comes to be, it has the potential to rank
among Bruce's greatest work.
Sincerely,
Richmond Powers
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 20:02:21 -0700
From: "Steve Moseley"
Subject: "Building the Wrecking Ball" video...
I'm dying to get a copy of this video. If anyone has any info, please let
me know.
I have Lanois videos to trade....Rocky World, the Warner Brothers in-house
show, VH-1 special, etc...
Thanks!
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Steve Moseley
smoseley01@home.com
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 04:59:18 -0700
From: "Kevin Rafferty"
Subject: Mystery album
Does anyone out there know anything about an album, supposed to have been
released in "early 1998", called "Man In The Moon: The Living Tongue"??? It
was said to feature our man's specifically created music underneath Ani
DiFranco's spoken word, along with John Cale/Wilco, Angelo
Badalamente/Flaming Lips and Michael Stipe/Brian Eno amongst others...I
found it mentioned on a music news site from August 1997. Strangely, I have
the incomplete DiFranco/Lanois track on a CD sent to me from England (thanks
again Keith!)...it cuts off before the end and I'd love to have the complete
track, but I can find no trace of the album...
Cheers
Kev
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 04:59:19 -0700
From: "Mark Tucker"
Subject: Reply to: Subject: Dave Marsh on Daniel Lanois
Ref:
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 12:45:06 -0700
From: "Gem City Records"
Subject: Dave Marsh on Daniel Lanois
Hi Dave,
It would appear that from reading your posting you have missed one point
about DL and the records he produced.
I would imagine that artists like Dylan, Emmylou and come to that, Bruce
Springsteen all choose who they (As you indeed said yourself "Hire") work
with and produce their music.
I don't understand the point you are making :
Quote: "U2 had better songs on the Joshua Tree than they'd had
before but I don't see whether Lanois's production per se is better
than what they'd had from Jimmy Iovine or Steve Lillywhite.
(You may be the "producer" of a hit record, but that doesn't mean
your production style is why the record was a hit. Ask anyone who
hired T-Bone Burnett after "One Head Light.")".
Tell me more about T Bone Burnett after " One Head Light" ...Excuse my
ingnorance, but I don't know this story.
All producers are very different in their approach and the results they
achieve reflect that. Success can only be quantified by the reaction the
music evokes and the general publics reaction to this. Or, ask Bob or
Emmylou & D.L. Just maybe, their opinion might be more valid.
For what it's worth, I feel D.L. has offered a refreshing left turn in
record production. If you listen to all of his work, he has made some pretty
diverse records with very different techniques and sounds.. They simply just
don't all sound "Lanois". I agree, he does have a recognisable sound. but,
for me it's about emotion not tempo.
Regards,
Mark Tucker
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 13:57:03 -0700
From: "henry llach"
Subject: lanois, marsh and springsteen
The dave marsh post is nonsense, and hes been carrying on about lanois for
some time. the intersting thing is that he praised dylans time out of mind,
trying to make the preposterous claim that jim dickinson input somehow was
responsible for the overall sound of the album. jim dickinson is a fine
producer, but i dont know of any album hes ever produced that sounds
anything like time out of mind; dickinson is on record as saying that he
didnt like the toom sound and it is no secret that lanois and dickinson did
not get on very well in the studio.
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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 20:23:52 -0700
From: Sean Fitzpatrick
Subject: Rocky World
Hey CKroon, while you're at it, get them to book him
at the Merrill Theatre in Portland Maine. I'd love to
have an opportunity to see him live.
And does anybody have anything on upcoming projects?
producing others or himself?
Lastly, I also am in the market for a copy of the
"Rocky World" video. It is currently out of print.
I would be forever in the debt of anyone who knows of
a copy for sale.
Thanks and regards,
Sean
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