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A C A D I E
The Internet newsletter for Daniel Lanois
Number 64, Sunday 16 March 1997
Today's Topics:
A request & and responses to some queries on Daniel
Lanois similar to U2
bootlegs
Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 63
Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 63
Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 63
Bob Dylan tour
lanois offshoots
Sexsmith
"Trying to Get To Heaven"
Daniel Lanois
Sling Blade
Lanois Concert Date
Lanois "For the Beauty of Wynona"
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From: Kenley Neufeld
Subject: A request & and responses to some queries on Daniel
Please, please change the subject line when you use the reply feature
of your email program. As you can see, when we have 3 messages with
"Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 63", it is difficult to know the subject
matter of the messages. Subject lines are helpful. :-)
In response to a few inquires:
Kingsway Studio, New Orleans is still operational - same as it ever was -
nothing has changed.
Malcolm Burn is represented by Frank Mc Donough at Moir/Marie Entertainment:
mmellc@primenet.com Frank represents Malcolm as a producer. Malcolm has recently released an album in Canada. I will get the title, label, etc.
Keep the messages coming.
Kenley Neufeld
ACADIE Editor
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:55:25 +0200
From: Lauri Lahnasalo
Subject: Lanois similar to U2
>Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 19:21:42 +0100
Reply to Philippe Bogaert
>I'd really like to know which Lanois' album sounds like U2's one. Don't
>know which one I should buy ! Thanks to help me.
Larry and Adam are playing in Acadie (his first) but it doesn't sound
anything like U2 (much more acoustic and down to roots). His second album
(For the beauty of Wynona) is more rockish and electric but it certainly
doesn't remind me of U2. One interesting points though: if you like Larry's
drumming you should check Emmylou Harris' Wrecking Ball that Lanois
produced. Larry's drumming is really groovy and effective.
And another point: The fourth track of U2's new album pop ("If God will send
his angels") and especially really guitar sounds are similar to Lanois'
guitar playing.
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:30:20 +0000
From: "Dr C.Greenhalgh"
Subject: bootlegs
Hi,
I've been following the bootleg debate on Acadie over the last few weeks
with some interest.I do not believe that it is wrong to distribute( in a
not for profit manner),live recordings of artists.A true fan will
probably have purchased all the official releases of the artist so
neither the artist or the company should suffer financially.
I strongly object to purchasing either illegal tapes or cds of official
recordings such as can be found in The Far East and China.This is
stealing pure and simple.
However,I do not see anything wrong with distributing tapes of
concerts.These are sounds which are of interest to fans and would
otherwise not see the light of day.In a sense they are a historical
record of where the artist is currently at and therefore deserve to be
heard by fans.
Most people realise that there are very few perfect concerts and so can
accept them with all their flaws.We are not looking for the same
standards of sound quality or musical excellence as for example in Van
Morrisson's 'Its Too Late To Stop Now'.We just want to hear how the
artist sounds now,warts and all.
So as long as there is'nt a deliberate attempt to make money out of the
tape,I believe that distributing a tape of a live recording sits well
with the spirit of The Net.
Peace,
Chris
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C.Greenhalgh
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From: ThRainKing@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:13:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 63
On the subject of bootlegs:
There was a very good article in Musician magazine a year or two ago
concerning artist & label feelings on bootlegs. The consensus I'll
paraphrase here:
Million-zillion selling artists are lousy bootleg items. Michael Jackson,
ZZTop, et al, are rarely even seen in bootleg bins. The belief is that the
"mass market" are more "consumers" of their music... that your average music
"consumers" get their fill from commercial releases, and that they don't like
(or even understand) the quality limitations of most bootleg product;
"Niche" artists (such as Lanois) have an audience that are more like
"connosuiers"... they have a deeper emotional connection to the music they
buy, and will grab ANY product that sheds new light or insight on a favorite
artist;
Though record execs disagree for $$$ reasons, most artists tolerate bootlegs
because they understand that the desire for bootlegs is part of the bigger
picture of "fan" support... that they wouldn't exist professionally without
the devotion and dedication of their fans... the same dedication that makes
us want bootlegs. After all, fans of someone like Lanois have to make due
with zero airplay, zero radio/MTV support and info (thus this newsletter...
it's probably the only way many of us will hear of tour dates or releases);
Many niche artists understood that the intense connection to their music that
makes fans *tolerate* the lack of airplay/info to seek out performances and
releases is the key to their success without being part of the "big money"
music infrastructure... and that this support allows them to be
non-commercial creators. ***More important, these artists understand that
BOOTLEGS DON'T REPLACE THEIR COMMERCIAL RELEASES... their fans will buy EVERY
piece of product they can get their hands on, and will buy every official
release... that boots do not "take money from their pockets"...a fear voiced
commonly in fan discussions of boots (even on this newsletter);
The biggest fear for many artists is the lack of creative control over boots;
that an "off-night" may be captured and distributed;
Owners of the larger bootleg labels provided convincing arguments that the
bootleg business is not a high-dollar business... it's more of an obsession
for many, and most have "day jobs".
OK... just paraphrasing! I'm not a taper myself (though I own, like, 5
Tori Amos boots). Any thoughts??
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:08:38 -0500
From: Éric Mc Comber
Subject: Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 63
Hi, everybody.
The firm that handled Lanois in 1996 was Madonna's managing label whose
name I can't recall. I is probably the same today.
There is a fascist organization called l'ADISQ here in Quebec, ruling
ruthlessly over the music industry. Every year in a sort of grammy-like
event, they hand out trophies to (among others) Quebec's best producer.
Daniel Lanois or Pierre Marchand have never even been nominated. I don't
think it makes them cry at night, but it illustrates the way our music
industry works.
Quebec magazine L'Actualité has featured Lanois in a great article
somewhere in 1995. Maybe somebody out there still has it. The author was
Christian Rioux my ex-neighbor, a man of great culture, but I had to
initiate him to Daniel's work.
Daniel is almost uknowned is his homeland. I somehow don't think he cares
much about fame or fortune but, that situation enrages me.
Éric Mc Comber
à Productions
Le PQ commence à être pas mal
plus proche de Groucho que de Karl...
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:34:28 -0600 (CST)
From: pautropj@SLU.EDU (Jean-Louis Pautrot)
Subject: Re: ACADIE digest number 63
Geneviève,
Thank you so much for telling us about the connection between Daniel
Lanois, you and the boreal forest. It seems that one thing that has remained
unnoticed on this newsgroup is the fact that Daniel is from Québec. I would
like to read more remarks about how his roots in traditional music and in
the Québec Province have shaped his art.
For you, Geneviève, with accents:
Pour toi, Geneviève, avec les accents:
Quand Daniel a sorti son premier album sous le titre "Acadie", ça
m'a beaucoup touché et impressionné. Je crois que, Normand de France vivant
aux Etats, je me suis trouvé beaucoup d'affinités avec les Québécois, les
Acadiens et les Cadiens de Louisiane, qui vivent leur fidélité aussi bien
que leur américanité. Le premier, Daniel m'a rappelé d'où je viens.
Il y a dans la musique de Daniel quelque chose qui parle des espaces
austères de ta belle province, du ciel et des vieux murs de Québec, et aussi
des bayous à écrevisses, près du golfe du Mexique, que j'ai connus dans la
lumière déserte de janvier. Quelque chose, aussi, qui ramène à ce petit
café-restaurant que tenait ma grand-mère, à Caudebec, avant-guerre, et aux
campagnes de morue que partaient faire mon grand-père à Terre-Neuve, de
Fécamp, sur son bateau à voiles.
Dis bonjour à la forêt et au vent polaire pour moi
Jean-Louis
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 22:39:25 -0330 (NST)
From: Phillip
Subject: Bob Dylan tour
I heard Dan was producing Bob Dylan's latest album. And I also know for
a fact that Bob Dylan is going on tour soon and will be here in St.
John's, Newfoundland (Canada), on April 1st. Anyone know if Dan is
tagging along for a few shows? I'd rather see Dan than Bob Dylan. (So
sue me.)
Phillip Cairns
phillip@cs.mun.ca
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 11:50:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Joanne Melissa Kaufman
Subject: lanois offshoots
I just recently joined up to the ACADIE digest and have enjoyed it so far.
I've been a Lanois fan since "Acadie" was released in 1989. At that time
I was living in Dublin, Ireland and the English music press did some nice
promos on Danny because he produced U2. Anyways, the reason I am writing
is because I've been following a lot of the conversation of offshoots of
Danny. While living in Ithaca, NY six years ago a friend of mine from
Toronto introduced me to a band called Crash Vegas. I liked the sound and
took a look at the jacket and found out that one of the band members was
Jocelyne Lanois (I think she's his sister). The album called "Red Earth"
was produced by Malcolm Burn with a cover photo by Robert and Daniel
Lanois. Crash Vegas then went on to release a second album called "Stone"
but Jocelyne had dropped out of the band by then. However, this second
album still is really good.
Happy listening. Joanne from Atlanta
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:17:25 +0000
From: "BRIAN M CAULFIELD (PHYSIOTHERAPY) STAFF"
Subject: Sexsmith
Greetings all,
You wouldn't believe how glad I was to find such a good website on
Daniel Lanois. I live in Ireland and, though I did see two other
Irish people on the subscribers' list, I don't come across too many Daniel
appreciators from day to day. Suffice to say that his music has
touched every part of me in good and bad times. I am amongst the
legions who buy albums of artists just because I see the name Daniel
Lanois as producer.
In fact that is why I purchased the Ron Sexsmith CD last year. I read
an interview with Elvis costello who mentioned Daniel Lanois in
connection with Ron sexsmith. Then when I got the CD I saw that
Daniel Lanois was only credited with producing one song, the
alternate take of "There's a Rhythm", and he also took the inner
sleeve photographs. Recently I found a website which contained an
interview with Ron Sexsmith. In the interview he doesn't say very
many complimentary things about Daniel's handling of his music. I
have included an excerpt from the interview (along with the address
where you can find the full text) below.
I was very suprised to see this point of view. I would be very
grateful if anyone out there could enlighten me further on the
relationship (or lack thereof) between these two great artists. It
would be a pity if they never worked together again.
By the way, Daniel Lanois, if you ever read this page, it would be
great if yourself and Malcolm could get the Hothouse Flowers together
again to record a new piece of work. "Shut up and listen" was
fabulous.
regards,
Brian Caulfield
b.caulfield@ucd.ie
I hate asking people to interpret their songs for me, but I was just curious about
"There's A Rhythm," as it's one of my favorite songs on the album.
It's hard to say. I was at this wedding reception, just sitting there watching all
the uncles and aunts. Actually, I was sitting with the grandpas, and
we'd been watching all these young people dancing around. That's
where I got the idea, just feeling left out and kinda old. Then I
started thinking that it's not really that way, that there's this kind of
rhythm underneath all the generations. That was the grand theme of it,
but I was trying to write it in a way that was
non-inclusive, that brought everybody in.
You preferred Mitchell's version of the song?
It's just more what I had in mind, because I didn't want it to be too
heavy handed, like "This Is An Important Song." I felt Daniel's version
was a little too serious, a little too solemn. I like Mitchell's because it has
this sort of Kurt Weill thing about it, this rocking-boat vibe to it that's really
cool.
Did you do any other songs with Daniel when you were tracking?
We did "Speaking With The Angel," but actually what we did was we took
the "Grand Opera Lane" version and he tried to build a track around it, but
it just ended up sounding out of place, this little track surrounded by all this
reverb and stuff. It just got scrapped eventually. I think we did a pretty good job
when Mitchell and I redid that one
Here are the full addresses for these sites on Ron Sexsmith.
http://ic.net:80/~blahblah/ron/sexsmith.html
http://www.execpc.com/~jerk/obscure/sexsmith.html
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Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:35:00
From: Eric Terpening
Subject: " Trying To Get To Heaven"
I was wondering if anyone has heard anyhting about a video entitled Trying
To Get To Heaven documenting the Lanois/Dylan sessions for the Oh Mercy LP.
Please reply to me privately if you have.
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From: Kan4610278@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:35:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Daniel Lanois
Love his music - anyone know anything about his personal life? Married? kids?
With the new studio in California, what has happened to Kingsway?
Thanks!
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From: nigott@localnet.com
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:50:47 -0500
Subject: Sling Blade
I'm usually just one of the lurkers on this list but I just came back from
seeing Sling Blade. I can't say enough about the sheer majestry of this film
and the impact it still has on me. DL's soundtrack was superb. The imagery his
score conjured with the deliberate low-keyedness of the film was inspired. I
don't think another artist could have conveyed the subtle perceptions that were
so vital to this film as he did.
Tracey
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:39:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Pablo Preece
Subject: Lanois Conert Date
Hello,
I just ran across your list of tour dates for Daniel Lanois and thought
you might want to look into an appearance he made at a U2 concert.
Unfortunately I heard this on a bootleg a few years ago and I can't
remember which concert (or bootleg) it was. He sang "I still haven't
found what I'm looking for" with U2.
- Pablo Preece
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From: bullet@acadiacom.net
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 20:41:52 -0600
Subject: Lanois "For the Beauty of Winona"
I was wondering, is there any way to get a CD insert for "Beauty of
Winona" that doesn't have that goddamn "AMERICAN EDITION" plastered on the front of it?
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