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A C A D I E
The Internet newsletter for Daniel Lanois
Number 65, Monday 24 March 1997
Today's Topics:
Notes from the Editor
Re: bootleg
Crash Vegas
ACADIE and boots
Re: CD Cover Query by bullet
Lanois Guitar Tunings...
New Dylan LP prod. by Lanois
response to bullet
About Technique
Malcom Burn CD and U2's Pop
Re: Comment on Éric Mc Comber view
Lanois bootleg
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From: Kenley
Subject: Notes from the Editor
Thanks to everyone for their messages and comments. We again have
another rich issue of ACADIE. Keep the messages coming.
Also, thank you for remembering to change the subject lines of your
messages.
Now, the criticism, for those of you who missed it last time. I, as the
Editor and founder of this list, do not desire us to have an extended
conversation about bootlegs. As a member of many music related
mailing lists, I have heard every possible angle to the argument and do
not desire to hear it again. We all have our opinions and are entitled to
them (I have mine). I have included all messages that have been sent
to me in the past several weeks and will probably continue to do so. But,
please think about it before sending in the future. Let's keep our
discussion focused on Daniel and his work.
My apologies for being so draconian; I hope you will continue to
participate in ACADIE.
Kenley
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From: redclay@MTS.Net
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 23:31:15 -0600
Subject: Re bootleg
Look, there's a lot of self-serving chat about bootlegs. I understand the
arguments about building a fan base. Sure, sounds almost plausible. But
this idea that fans of "serious artists" deserve bootlegs, somehow, because
of zero airplay, well, aren't we forgetting a couple of things here.
Shouldn't an artist have some control over what kind of musical statement
hits the CD player. Isn't that why they go into the recording studio in
the first place? Doesn't an artist have all rights in shaping what we
listen to? It's nice that fans have an urge for material that just isn't
being met? But I think that unless the artist intends, specifically, for
the message to reach you, then you're invading their territory and making
decisions that, really, are theirs to make. So I believe in getting an
artist's explicit permission on these issues. Second, it's all well and
dandy to say that no-one is "profiting" from the free distribution of
bootlegs. Well, that's coming at the issue the wrong way. When you listen
to a bootleg that reaches you from a source unsanctioned by the artist or
his/her management, you're enjoying something without paying the artist
anything. The artist, in effect, is cut out of the transaction. You profit
from the pleasure in the listening and, yes, the artist gets some
promotion, but I think they'd rather have a slice of money for their
talents. I know that 10 or 20 or 50 bootlegs doesn't generate a lot of
cash, but these things tend to mutate like a virus. I mean, there are
still people out there, in the millions, who think nothing of taping a
friend's CD to avoid actually buying a copy of a CD on which the artists
earns a royalty. Let's get real. We're talking about artists being ripped
off, period.
Larry Gaudet
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:01:33 -0500
From: Éric Mc Comber
Subject: Crash Vegas
About Crash Vegas,
I saw them live, opening for Lanois, the fist time he played in Montréal.
They had this amazing song called "Avalanche". I rushed to the music store,
to find that the album was seemingly expunged from the strange eerie songs
I had liked at the concert. "Avalanche was'nt there.
Maybe Joane can telle me if it's on the second CD.
Éric Mc Comber
à Productions
Le PQ commence à être pas mal
plus proche de Groucho que de Karl...
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From: bluzman@fishheads.com
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:37:44 -0500
Subject: ACADIE and boots
Daniel is a "musicians musician" and I'm glad to have found a place on the
internet for for him. Our whole family loves ACADIE. My in-laws are all
from what used to be known as Acadia (the protion in extreme northern
Maine) and speak Acadien as their primary language. Well anyways they are
preserving the roots up there and that is good. Not that this has anything
to do with Daniel's music ... just a nice FYI.
...on the other hand. I think that bootleg CDs found in stores should be
boycotted. They totally infringe on the artists rights. On the other
hand, "bootleg" tapes of concerts that are traded with no money involved
should be condoned, but that is up to the artist. I would love to get my
hands on some good quality "live tapes" of DL! I do have some tapes to
trade... Radiators, John Hiatt, Tiny Town and some others.
Live tapes can be a good tool in helping to promote artists to people that
may not otherwise have a chance to experience their music.
Thanks to whoever is responsible for this Mailing list and web page!!!
Paul Toracinta
bluzman@fishheads.com
http://www.fishheads.com
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Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 08:59:39 +0000 (GMT)
From: D Buddie
Subject: Re: CD Cover Query by bullet@acadiacom.net
The answer is: "Buy the CD in Britain!"
Or I will swap with you - I play the CD constantly in my class at school
- the kids LOVE it - here in Rickmansworth, England. However, the cover makes
it a rather inappropriate one to have lying by the computer when you
have a class of 13 year old girls nearby.
Regards,
Drew Buddie
--
General remote signature - name, company name, address, WWW address? Work
international number. Disclaimer?
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From: "Thomas S. Wilson"
Subject: Lanois Guitar Tunings...
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 09:57:19 -0600 (CST)
Well, I'm new to the list.... I looked through some of the archives, but
couldn't find any discussions about different guitar tunings that lanois
uses. There is a pretty good article in April's Guitar Player "At the
Movies" that explains his FFCFAC tuning... I have been messing around with
that and love it. Just wondering if there were any more that people knew.
Thanks,
Scott
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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 08:55:25
From: Eric Terpening
Subject: New Dylan LP prod. by Lanois
Henry Llach recently posted to the Dylan list some info about the
forthcoming LP which according to the post is currently being mixed by
Lanois and Mark Howard in California. A video for a song called Trying to
Get to Heaven (Before They Close the Door) is also rumoured to be in the
works. The tracks are said to be very long (described as "epics"), in the
range of 6-8 min. Lanois was said to have played on many of the songs with
Dylan playing acoustic and electric guitar as well as piano. Other
musicians mentioned were Brian Blades, Cindy Cashdollar, Jim Keltner, Bob
Britt, Duke Robillard, and Bucky and Garnier from Dylan's tour band.
All that I've heard about these sessions has been real good. I'm sure
looking forward to hearing the finished product. OH MERCY was one of my
all-time favourites thanks to Lanois' magic touch. Glad that he's been
rather prolific over the last few years.
As for Ron Sexsmith's decision to go with Mitchell Froom instead of Lanois
for his second LP, I won't hold it against him. Unless he's as good as
Richard Thompson (very unlikely) I don't think he'll stay with the hollow
Froom sound for long - I think he'll come back to Lanois in time. I think
Sexsmith would do well with someone like T-Bone Burnett too. Or Pierre
Marchand...
On another note, years ago I heard a great interview with Lanois on FM in
New York around the time Acadie came out. When asked about influences and
the roots of his sound, he said that he grew up listening to a lot of
gospel music. Does anyone know of any interviews that are worth checking out?
Eric
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Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:00:20 -0500
From: carsten kroon
Subject: response to bullet
Bullet@acadiacom.net:
i live in Ontario. Send me some cash and I'll go pick you upa nice new copy
of Beauty.. with no american Edition sticker on it... I think 15 U.S should
cover it all..
Later
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From: Darko Milosevic
Subject: About Technique
The Panorama*
He was contented.The wide road he was talking home seemed wider to him, those hills in the distance where unusually clear and so close. His brain was pounding : "Who can master the sound S can see into the soul of a man and the heart of a woman". The Master confirmed what he had already known, so he had no reason to doubt in himself anymore. Suddenly it was all clear to him. He understood why he always liked to hear someone nicely pronouncing S, that twisted symbol on the paper, which aborigines used to call a little demon.
He decided to awake all the love of the world.
* Left, Center, Right
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From: LISAPEARL@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:46:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Malcom Burn CD and U2's Pop
I have the Malcolm Burn CD that Kenley mentioned in Acadie Digest number 64,
so I thought I'd pass along the info on it. It's on an indie label called
Handsome Boy, based in Toronto. His band is called Pregnant, and includes
three other members. The CD is called After Dinner Mints, and unfortunatly is
available only in Canada. If anyone is interested, Handsome Boy's address is
181 Clinton Street, Toronto, Ontario, M6G 2Y4, Canada.
As for the sound, it is quite diverse. I'll quote an article from the
September 28, 1996 Toronto Sun "... a clever mix of rock weirdness and pop
hooks". I gave it another listen this week and decided that the overall
sound contains elements of his production work with Iggy Pop, Midnight Oil,
and John Mellencamp. This may be due to the fact that he recorded it over a
period of time between producing jobs. Overall, the production is very
simple, lacking the lushness I associate with his production of others' work.
Burn's singing is different from his singing with Boys Brigade and his CD
Redemption, but hasn't really improved.
Overall, I think the CD is okay, but if you like his producing style, you
won't find much of it here. If anyone is interested in reading a couple of
articles about it, e-mail me and I'll forward them.
In Acadie #64, Lauri Lahnasalo wrote:
>And another point: The fourth track of U2's new album pop ("If God will send
>his angels") and especially really guitar sounds are similar to Lanois'
>guitar playing.
I agree, and I also detect Lanoisesque guitars on the tenth track, "If You
Wear That Velvet Dress", and a Lanoisesque production sound on the eleventh,
"Please". The whole CD is a return to the sounds of Joshua Tree and Achtung
Baby.
Lisa
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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:21:47 -0500
From: Martine Lacasse
Subject: Re: Comment on Éric Mc Comber view
Hi everyone!
Just a little note about the article Éric was talking about in last
week digest. It's the november 1, 1993 issue not 1995. Now a comment
about what he calls « a fascist organization, l'ADISQ here in Quebec »,
"I agree totaly with him". I live in the province of Québec myself, in
Gatineau and he's right, they have forgot Daniel.It's so frustrating to
see that even here in the Outaouais region most people don't even no
Dan. I'm so a shame! I hope that l'ADISQ will see next time, that his
work get recognize.
Martine Lacasse
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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:28:46 -0800
From: carsten kroon
Subject: Lanois bootleg
I for one would die to have a copy of this bootleg and I really don't see
anything wrong with it. If I get a copy I would be glad to send ole danny
a ten spot for it, its more than he would see from an individual sale.
Also, when he tells a total stranger to record the show what does he
think this guy is going to do with it? Where is this guy with the bootleg
anyways? I haven't heard bac kfrom him. If you're out there contact
me!!!!!
Anyhow, just saw SlingBlade. All I can say is, that was one helluva
movie! It's been three days since and it still has effects on me... Wow.
One disappointment though. Not all the songs on the movie are on the
soundtrack and there is some really awesome instrumental stuff. Anyone
know Billy Bob personally?
Later all Lanois heads.
P.S: Who out there has the biggest Lanois collection?
I have 11 Lanois cd's, a bootleg tape from Germany and the Rocky World
video. (Cool water is in this collection. I had three copies of it. I got
one, Kenley the other and my best friend the last. Still looking for all
of you though :) )
Later.
" Brian, Look at me All The Time!" ....
" As much as I can..." (Cool Water)
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The views expressed in ACADIE are those of the individual authors only.
ACADIE is released for the personal use of readers. No commercial use may
be made of the material unless permission is granted by the author.
Kenley Neufeld, ACADIE editor
http://www.sfbayconcerts.com/kenley.html
kenley@sfbayconcerts.com
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