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Number 88, Tuesday 23 September 1997
Today's Topics:
For your smile
OK! I'll clear up my Sarah Mcglaughlin Comments
ACADIE posting
Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 87 [Lanois influence on Gabriel??]
I seek Yoda!
Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 87 [Pour ton Souire]
Some Lanois-bashing in London's Time Out
The PBS Show
Lanois on new album
Re: B-day
more for the discography
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:11:27 -0500
From: Éric Mc Comber <mccomber@alphacom.net>
Subject: For your smile
The actual expression is: "pour ton sourire"
Keep up the aaaamazing work Kenley !
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 11:44:44 -0400
From: chris findlay <cfindlay@nsta.org>
Subject: ACADIE posting
LANOIS NEOPHITES ISO BOOTS AND VIDEOS!
We came to Daniel Lanois via the Peter Gabriel route, although
searching
our music the other night for liner note references we discovered
we've been
listening to his work for years without even knowing it. But now
we're hooked.
What do you suggest we begin hunting for? Does anybody have a
copy of
the entire PBS show, or other videos? We also REEEEELY want to
get hold
of some concert or studio bootlegs. In return, we've got
trade-ables, (but
we're not territorial -- ya see something ya like, we'll get it
to ya).
Here's what we've got:
Too many Gabriel boots to even list...
Too many early Genesis boots to even list...
Gabriel/Genesis Reunion Concert
Very many CD-quality Gabriel songs that didn't make albums
Very many not CD-quality Gabriel songs that didn't make albums
Gabriel guest DJ radio shows
Gabriel's German albums (3 and 4)
Gabriel's last two tours on video (POV and Secret World)
A really trippy video of Genesis on the BBC doing "Fountain
of Salmacis"
and "Twilight Ale House"; 1971, PG has long hair, plays
flute!
Way fond memories of at least six shows per tour since time back
way
back
(Can you tell we're kinda into Gabriel?) Oh, BTW, we're editors
and we
each have a desk full of monster desktop publishing equipment and
applications. Trade skills too?
Chris and Christi
cfindlay@nsta.org
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From: GMANMATT@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:58:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: OK! I'll clear up my Sarah Mcglaughlin Comment!!!
Hello everyone in ACADIE land!
In Digest #86 I put a comment about Sarah Mclaughlin's new CD
called
"Surfacing". It was a negative review about the CD, and
I just want to
clarify myself a little bit. Sarah is a BEAUTIFUL and gifted
singer, and no
question her new CD was one of the CD's I was most anticipating.
I was,
however, disappointed with it. After being into Lanois' music for
so long
now, her CD doesn't match up "spiritually" to anything
Lanois (or
U2,Gabriel,Dylan,etc.) does. Neither does it match up to her last
album
"Fumbling Toward Ecstasy". It is a good CD compared to
most. The "bad" solo
I mentioned wasn't on track 3 (sorry!!), it is on track #6 (and
it truly is
laughable!). I'll stick to my view of her CD, but I TRULY
apologize if I
deterred anyone from buying it because I myself bought it,and
ya'll can
decide for yourselves! I will buy her next album and hope for the
best. She
is one of the better musicians, I came down a little too hard.
I wan't to take this opportunity to first thank you KENLEY for
the BEST
newsletter on the web. I look forward to this E-Mail FIRST each
week. Where
else can you find Lanois fans? Nowhere! You have to stumble
across them,
unfortunately.
Second, I want to tell everyone here that you are the greatest
bunch of
people to talk to and you are all very generous to share your
knowledge and
music! I enjoy talking to everyone apart from this newsletter, it
has
broadened my music library, my music knowledge, and my music
inspiration.
Thank you.
Matt
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From: Lauri Lahnasalo <lauril@dystopia.fi>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:37:09 +0200
Subject: Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 87 [Lanois influence on
Gabriel??]
I've been wondering what Daniel does for Peter Gabriel. I can't
hear his influence on Gabriels albums. Is he just an engineer?
I can't believe that. Please help me!
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From: "Angela Pancella" <anjelle@accessus.net>
Subject: I seek Yoda!
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:21:06 -0500
I just found out our public television has already run the
Sessions episode
w/Emmylou and Daniel. AAARGH! Could some kind soul make a copy
for me? I
will pay for it.
Angela
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From: Baraklurie@aol.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:17:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 87 [re: Pour ton sourire]
Just fyi: I speak french, and here's what the passage means:
<<<<...pour ton sourire, je veux te donner
une belle bague, belle bague pour ton sourire... Pour ton
embrasse, je
veux te donner une tasse d'amour, tasse d'amour pour ton
embrasse...
Pour tes yeux, pour ta ??? ... pour ton
sourire...>>>>
"For your smile, I want to give you a beautiful ring,
beautiful ring for your
smile... For your kiss, I want to give you a cup of my love, cup
of my love
for your kiss, for your eyes, for your ??? for your
smile...."
[Ant -- I hope your getting all these lyrics. :-) , Kenley]
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Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 16:23:45 +0000
From: daniel@bib.nl (Daniel Baars)
Subject: Some Lanois-bashing in London's Time Out
Some pretty bad comments about our boy's production-work on the
new
Dylan-album in this week's Time Out. I've heard the album myself
and my
view is quite the opposite: it is another proof on Lanois' genius
(and
Dylan's too but that's not the point on this mailinglist...).
Extra-ordinary.
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Music Preview - Time Out
September 17-24 - No.1413
Oh my god!
Dylan's first album of new songs in seven years
The first few times I heard the new Bob Dyian album I hated it.
And I love
Bob Dylan. Even his crappy albums. It's sad, and I know it, but
l'll
usually line up alongside anyone, anytime - Greil Marcus, George
Harrison,
Zak from 'Emmerdale', anyone - pitch right in with the ludicrous,
excuse-making hordes, and genuflect wildly on behalf of the
wayward genius.
But this album seemed slack and sluggardly, beyond both reason or
redemption. I can't abide Daniel Lanois' dully crafted 'organic'
sound and
terribly treacly production at the best of times, but even
putting his
illadvised meddlings aside, these 11 new Dylan songs appeared
lame and
tame. Worst of all, the Iyrics sounded limp and lightweight,
tossed-off,
twee and banal. This, the first Bob Dylan album of new songs in
seven
years, apparently confirmed the rumours of his writing block and
artistic
decline. I was shocked but not overly surprised.
And then a funny thing happened. It slowly began to make sense.
First off,
the only good thing about the album had been his voice. Dry,
harsh,
cracked, aching with emotion, leathery and weathered - the real
thing
compared to the kind of effect he tried for back in 1961 when, as
a
20-year-old, he affected the voice and demeanour of some
world-weary,
hard-travelled, mythical musical hobo. Apart from the singing
though, the
music was all dribbly, irritating and unimaginative, and the
songs plain
and meandering.
After a while, however, the album started to exert a pull and
fascination,
drip-feeding fractured thought and broken emotion. Sure, it is
superficially bland, but it is aiso edgy and uncomfortable.
Although
finished priorto Dylan's recent, potentially life-threatening
illness, it
is shot-through with a heavy, aching languor and strange,
impermeable sense
of mortality, suffering and sorrow.
'Well I'm strolling through the lonely graveyard of my mind. . .
I thought
somehow that I would be spared this pain,' he sings on 'Can't
Wait' . 'Same
old rat race, life in the same old cage' and 'feel like a
prisoner in a
world of mystery' he intones with even more husky brutality on
the
17-minute 'Highlands' (a partly successful rambling dirge that
also finds
him in Scotland listening to Neil Young and then in Boston
ordering
hard-boiled eggs). It isn't funny and neither is it particularly
profound.
Although, then again, maybe it is. He continues, 'I see people in
the park
forgetting their troubles and woes, they're drinkingand dancing,
wearing
bright coloured clothes, all the young men with their young women
looking
so good, well l'd trade places with any of them in a minute if I
could.'
Towards the end, parched and knowing, he adds, 'the party's over,
and
there's less and less to say, I got new eyes, everything Iooks
far away'.
This is not typical Dylan. There is a savage poignancy in this
album. It is
not obtuse or enigmatic. Meaning is not tangled, or deliberately
left,
dangling. In notes Dylan has written to accompany its release (in
the last
few years he seems happier to explain his actions and motives) he
refers to
this as 'a performance record instead of a poetic literary type
of thing',
and acknowledges, 'some people when it comes to me extrapolate
only the
Iyrics from the muslc. But in this case. . . you can feel it
rather than
think about it.' This is deliberately disingenuous. In fact,
'Time Out Of
Mind' is Dylan's most wired and wrenched work since 'Blood On The
Tracks',
albeit less focused, less dramatic and rather less magnificent.
One track,
'Not Dark Yet', is possibly his best for some 20 years.
'Sometimes my
burden is more than I can bear... I was born and I will die here,
against
my will... it's not dark yet, but it's getting there.'
Daniel Lanois still bugs me though. He shrouds the songs in a
dreary,
unimaginative wash of shuffling, sonic torpor. Production wise,
it is the
sort of thing Mitchell Froom would have done much better. For all
the
album's faults though, it still nags and haunts. It is a curious,
compelling and disturbing work that articulates love, loss,
regret and
vulnerability with a deceptive simplicity and painful honesty.
But, y'see,
there I go again. Apologising. Rational minds will hear this and
judge it
awful. Me, I see genius in the snarl of a dying man.
Ross Fortune
'Time Out Of Mind' s released by Columbia on Sept 29.
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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 11:09:47 -0230
From: Phillip Cairns <phillip@cs.mun.ca>
Subject: The PBS Show
Well, I stayed up late to watch the PBS show, "West 54th
Street," or
whatever it's called---to see Emmylou and Daniel on stage, and
guess
what? Somebody ELSE was on the show. I had my stereo VCR and my
regular audio cassette recorder all set up and ready to go so I
could
play it back for years to come. And Nothing. And this time next
week
my cable is going to be disconnected, which means I'll probably
never
see it. ARGH!
That's all I have to say about that.
Thanks for bearing with me.
--
Phillip
phillip@cs.mun.ca
http://www.cs.mun.ca/~phillip
(Last updated Aug 26/97)
Time is not a field, to be measured in rods, nor a sea,
to be measured in miles; it is a heart-beat.
-- Nikos Kazantzakis/THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST
(1st line from Chapter XIV)
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Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 11:13:16 -0400
From: greg peel <sunnyday@megahits.com>
Subject: Lanois on new album
This just in from Island Records: Lanois' "Amazing
Grace," as well as
Ani DiFranco's superb version, will bookend a new release to come
out
Sept. 30. It's called "Amazing Grace," and it'll
include recordings by
Angelique Kidjo, Bob Marley, Melissa Etheridge, P.M. Dawn, Jane
Siberry
("Calling all Angels," a great song from her
mesmerizing album "When I
Was a Boy") The Automatic Baby (members of REM & U2,
singing "One"
live), & the Cranberries ("Dreaming My Dreams"
live).
It's a fund-raiser for the T.J. Martell Foundation, the Multiple
Myeloma
Fund at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center and other
cancer
research centers.
The release doesn't call the Lanois cut a new or previously
unreleased
recording, as it does for others, so it's likely the one with
Aaron
Neville.
I'm sure Island has a web page with more track info.
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 00:20:26 -0400
From: Jack Orson <jorson@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: B-day
Hey, how's everybody doing?
If someone knows when DL's birthday is, could they please post it
or
email it to me. Thanks alot.
Jack
jorson@ibm.net
[Born September 19, 1951, Hull, Quebec, Canada -- Kenley]
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Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 23:20:21 -0700
From: michael murphy <slingblade@earthlink.net>
Subject: more for the discography
Hey now
nice site and since I'm a huge Lanois fan myself,
I thought I would throw in my two cents to the discography:
see ya,
mike
"Still Water" - promo cd WB-3294
1. Radio Version (slightly diff mix)
2. Live Version
3. LP Version
"For The Beauty Of Wynona" - Advance promo cd - WB 6130
-on advanced copies, "Brother LA" has a different
bridge,
The lyrics are the same but the music and vocals are different.
"Trip"
This is a promo only compilation of soundtrack pieces, put out (I
think) by DL's
management. It isn't a bootleg, a few of the tracks ended up on
the Sling Blade s/t
1. Needles
2. El Conquistador
3. Rota
4. Da Luna Funk
5. Diego Painting
6. Mighty CLoud
7. Bells Of New Orleans
8. Beatrice
9. Two Worlds
10. White Mustang II
11. Symphonic Chords
12. Romantic Tremolo
13. Blue Waltz
14. Sonho Dourado
Copilations
"Fais Do-Do" - from Winter Warnerland promo cd 3328
(1988)
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