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Number 89, Tuesday 30 September 1997
Today's Topics:
I have a SMILE
Re: Death of a Train Lyrics
lanois influences gabriel?
RE: Lauri, "What Does Danny Do"?
Lanois influence on Gabriel (and what about his trousers?)
Re: more for the discography
Slingblade?
Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 88 [re: w. 54th screensaver]
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WWW: http://www.sfbayconcerts.com/lanois/home.html
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From: Kenley
Subject: I have a SMILE
Just popped in the new Lanois produced CD of Bob Dylan's and I
love
Daniel Lanois and I love Bob Dylan! This issue brought to you
while it
is playing. Oh, and Daniel plays on every song too.
Please keep the Gabriel influence discussion going; this is
exactly the sort
of stuff that can make this group interesting.
Also, some new news: Daniel has signed Brian Blade - jazz drummer
extrodinaire (Joshua Redman & DL drummer) to BlueNote/Capitol
Records.
They are recording live this week in Oxnard at Daniel's private
studio.
I expect it will release early 1998 - bound to be a special
record.
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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 23:46:41 -0400
From: Jack Orson <jorson@ibm.net>
Subject: Re:Death of a Train Lyrics
If at all possible, if anyone knows them, can you please post the
lyrics
for Death of a Train for me. I am having major probs trying to
figure
them out.
Thanx so much
Jack
[All lyrics are available at the ACADIE web site on the Musician
page - Kenley]
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:30:20 -0400
From: chris findlay <cfindlay@nsta.org>
Subject: lanois influences gabriel?
in response to Lauri Lahnasalo' s query about DL's influences on
PG, some
random thoughts:
check out the way lanois starts one of his songs (say, Deep
Water) with
only a single or a few instruments, and then adds more and more
as the song
progresses. the sounds he creates, the instruments he uses to
create them,
and the way he blends those sounds in at appropriate moments is,
in our
humblest of opinions, one of his chief talents. also, in the same
vein, the
mechanics of the sounds as they blend - like reverb, echo,
flatness,
engineering board stuff - is always unique and original, not to
mention
just plain ol' gorgeous. we think it's his ability to literally
mix sounds
that's why he's so sought after for studio work. dylan, gabriel,
and eno,
after all...
if you saw his rendition of Deep Water on the PBS special, you
saw the way
he opened the song by saying he was gonna just start playing and
then
others would come up and join him as the mood felt right and the
song
seemed to call for it. we thought: yeah, that about says it.
also check out the lanois song Conquistador on Real World Music's
Plus from
Us album from a few years back. if you haven't heard it, it's an
album
gabriel released shortly after Us came out. in the liner notes he
says it
demonstrates different musical styles that influenced Us while it
was in
production.
we gotta say, though, we think looking for direct correlations
between
these particular collaborators' musical styles - this sounds like
that,
that sounds like this - might not prove all that fruitful. both
gabriel and
lanois are craftspersons of the highest order (again, our humble
opinion),
and we think they're probably always pushing the outside of the
musical
envelope, as it were, creating new sounds and new combinations of
sounds.
but, yeah, it'd be pretty cool to be a fly on that particular
studio wall
during one of their sessions; their musical vocabulary must be
way advanced!
chris and christi
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From: Kevin Paez <Kevin@clearcom.net>
Subject: RE: Lauri, "What Does Danny Do"?
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 11:46:55 -0500
Daniel Lanois is a very Hands On producer. He plays percussion or
guitar
while the band is working up arrangements or recording basic
tracks, and
apparently his tracks are kept in the final mix* more often than
not. He
also is responsible for the overall sound of a record. I read
somewhere
that on Gabriel's US, Danny would mix the day of the recording,
and then
if there was a part they didn't like, they would add new
instruments to
the original tape, mix that, and then SPLICE the original mix
with the
new mix. You will also note that the whole OVERALL LEVEL of
Danny's
albums changes abruptly sometimes (Danny futzing with the master
volume). This goes against the grain of most modern attitudes
toward
mixing...and sets his stuff apart. He is also known for his
careful
detailing of the bass frequencies. If you haven't heard Wynona on
a Big
Bad Ass Stereo, I suggest you go to a Listening Room at a
high-dollar
shop and slap that puppy in there. Tell the sales people you are
considering new studio speakers and don't have alot of time...
*(Note:I know we aren't all gearheads or engineers. When a band
is
recorded, each instrument's microphone is routed to a separate
strip of
tape (a Track) and remains in sync with all the other
instruments. At
that point it can be re-recorded, replaced with something else
sonically
altered with electronics (Danny uses loads of digital echoes)
without
affecting other instruments in the song. The band can go home and
leave
Danny to do this if they like, he seems to have a pretty good
handle on
it. MIXDOWN is the process of playing the tape back and adjusting
the
relative level of each instrument, playing onto a stereo tape
recorder.This Stereo deck then contains a Mix. Basically that is
what
you hear, although Danny changed it for the final release of For
the
Beauty of Wynona, as Michael Murphy noted in Acadie 88.)
Cheers, Lanoisciples!
Enrique Paez
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From: ElevenShad@aol.com
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:47:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Lanois influence on Gabriel (and what about his
trousers?)
In a message dated 97-09-24 01:31:36 EDT, you write:
> I've been wondering what Daniel does for Peter Gabriel. I
can't
> hear his influence on Gabriels albums. Is he just an
engineer?
> I can't believe that. Please help me!
What you could do, if you are truly curious, is listen to Gabriel
albums with
and without Lanois. As a reference point, you may want to
consider listening
to other groups produced both with and without him as well --
it's up to you.
As you can undoubtedly tell by reading posts in this group,
Lanois does far
more than engineer. He is a producer and musician and singer
himself. He
has a strong sonic thumbprint. To my ear (and I definitely do not
speak for
others on this mailing list), he seems to leave a sense of
atmosphere, almost
a hue or glow, on the sound of the particular album he is working
on. In
some cases, such as Emmylou's album, it can be almost swampy.
I also feel that his other attribute is that he manages to bring
out a more
seductive, longing sort of side from the artist, and bring it to
the fore.
He brings out a certain moodiness. And lastly, another attribute
is that he
seems to draw out very strong performances from the artists that
he works
with, which is one of the most important jobs in a producer.
Another
strength in working with Lanois is that he is very good at
considering what
an artist may want to do next, anticipating their mode of
approaching the
music or experimenting. From what I have been told by other
engineers, he
seems to be quite good at setting up a situation where the artist
can shift
gears easily, without having to reconfigure the instruments or
the wiring to
accommodate different approaches.
Lastly, Peter G. was asked what he looks for in a producer some
years back.
He answered, "Clean fingernails and tight trousers."
Apparently, DL fits
the bill! <g>
Ken/Eleven Shadows
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From: "Juan M. Parra" <juani@intergate.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: more for the discography
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:10:05 -0700
Mike,
Thanks for the info. Trip looks very interesting & intriguing
to me. Is there anyway to get into this "Trip"?
Cheers.
Juani
>"Trip"
>This is a promo only compilation of soundtrack pieces, put
out (I think) by
>DL's
>management. It isn't a bootleg, a few of the tracks ended up
on the Sling
>Blade s/t
>1. Needles
>2. El Conquistador
>3. Rota
>4. Da Luna Funk
>5. Diego Painting
>6. Mighty CLoud
>7. Bells Of New Orleans
>8. Beatrice
>9. Two Worlds
>10. White Mustang II
>11. Symphonic Chords
>12. Romantic Tremolo
>13. Blue Waltz
>14. Sonho Dourado
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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:28:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: bushweed <bushweed@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: Slingblade?
Hello you all,
Here's my question...i heard that the Slingblade soundtrack was
done by
Daniel Lanois..if anyone has it..what do you think of it? If this
was a
really lame question..forgive me..i'm just beginning to discover
his music
and it's hard to find people that are well-acquinted with his
work.
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 09:18:13 +0000
From: PETER JONGENEEL <peterjon@pop3.worldaccess.nl>
Subject: Re: ACADIE Digest, Number 88
hi everybody
i was kind of distressed that after downloading the screensaver
at
sessionsatwest54th.com that i got the message that my computer
found
corrupt files?? so i never got to see it BUMMER. has anybody got
a good
version that they can e-mail me please( btw please new single is
fantastic
AS IF u didnt know!)
Last time i saw daniel in concert in Amsterdam he played a real
uptempo not
to say hardcore version of u2 s "love is blindness"
what a man and like the
song goes... WHAT A BEAUTIFUL NOISE
take care peter jongeneel, Rotterdam the Netherlands
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