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Number 91, Monday 20 October 1997
Today's Topics:
Update & Apologies
Daniel Lanois
re: new Dylan record
Spirituality
Re: Dylan's "Time out of Mind"
Spirituality
Nietzsche and Daniel Lanois
Re: Dylan's "Time out of Mind"
re: Interesting...
Tuning for 'Ballad of Marie Claire'
daniel almost produced our record
new album question
every sailor asks the question...
U2 ticket in Atlanta
Re: Spirituality
Re: Dylan's Time Loop
Charlie Rose interview
"Camilla"
ACADIE: People in NYC
More Lanois stuff...
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From: Kenley Neufeld
Subject: Update & Apologies
Apologies on two counts: the large size of this digest and the
fact that I
skipped last week's Digest.
I am in the process of switching ISP and need to update the pages
to work on the new server. Several good things will come out of
the move; one that should directly affect you all: I will be
adding a
search engine to the old Digests!
Also, the image maps on the web site probably won't work until
after
next weekend. Please let me know if you encounter any
difficulties.
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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 21:04:28 -0400
From: Richard Federici <richfed@icu2.net>
Subject: Daniel Lanois
Hi -
Any info on the piece, "Orchestral Mohican", which was
used a theme for a
part of The Last Of The Mohicans soundtrack? Was it ever
recorded? Is it
available?
Any info you might provide would be appreciated!
Thanks.
Rich
http://www.mohicanpress.com
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:24:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: popscreen@mindspring.com (Todd Schnitzer)
Subject: re: new Dylan record
<<Thanks again for all your work on Lanois. Found Dylan's
new album pretty
uninteresting on any level. Only one listen so far. It may grow
on me. I
hear a more muted influence of Lanois on the overall sound. Am I
wrong?
Could be my ears or the way Dylan and or Lanois wanted it. I wish
Lanois
had given it a real signature, like Harris's wonderful last
album. It
would have given us all something worth listening to. Yours
Truly, John>>
I also found it pretty uninteresting after one pass. But after 10
or so
spins, the record is slowly unfolding itself to me. It will
definitely
grow on you.
I can't believe how much Dylan sounds like Howlin' Wolf on the
record. I
also can't believe how Lanois and co. were able to make
contemporary record
sound like it was put down in 1966. The second track sounds like
a
"Basement Tapes" outtake. A very warm yet unflattering
record. Definitely
his best since "Blood on the Tracks".
Brady Blade is one of the best drummers to WATCH play. He almost
dances.
And damned if he doesn't resemble Elvin Jones.
Todd Schnitzer
http://www.mindspring.com/~nadine23
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From: Radonrecords <radonrec@HK.Super.NET>
Subject: Re: Spiritualty
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 97 18:41:40 PDT
I know what the gentlemen means. But I think he is wrong to say
Emmylou Harris didn't have that qaulity until she started Working
with Lanois. If you listen to her Backing vocals on Dylans Desire
.
you can realy here that quality. I think her vocals and scarlett
riverras violin make that Album great. Iwas so glad when she did
Wrecking Ball. Iwas just Listening to Natalie Merchants
Tigerlilly and I think she has the same quality that Emmylou has.
I'm looking frowared to hearing Dylans new album but its not for
sale in Hongkong yet.
I realy love my weekly letter Thanks
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From: Alakritz@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:21:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Dylan's "Time out of Mind"
RE: Dylan's "Time out of Mind"
It's been on my CD player constantly since I bought it last week.
It blew me
away the first listen, and it keeps going deeper with each new
listen. The
most uncanny album I have heard in quite some time--sounds like
the old
Dylan, yet I can't help feel as if this were a new artist,
someone who just
found his groove, his voice, and his subject. Also, the songs are
the most
personal, most intimate we've had from Dylan, as if the age of
the
autobiography has finally found its musical exression. Much of
the lyrics
rides that edge of sentiment and sentimentality, always
threatening to spill
over into the maudlin, which makes the album that much more
thrilling, like
watching a tight rope walker. The Lanios production too is
uncanny, with
elements of searing clarity and precision, mixed with a haunting,
rumbling
rumour of bad things to come in the background, threatening to
come to the
foreground. For me this is a remarkable recording, in a moment of
reflection
by a number of major artists: John Fogerty going back to
Mississipi to find
the lexicon for his new album, Sir Paul Mccartney trying to throw
off the
title and learn from his old dead pal (lover?) John for his
latest. For me,
Dylan looks back and brings with him what made him strongest in
his youth,
but goes further and creates a new idiom for popular music,
something for
which I don't have a name. I think this is a great album to
listen to, and
will come to be a signal musical moment at the end of the
millennium. Dylan
looks back with a mixture of rage, contempt, humor, and intense
longing, and
Lanios has helped him to find the perfect musical setting for
that vision.
Andy Lakritz
Arlington, VA
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From: "Rector - Van Ausdal" <qfish@premier1.net>
Subject: Spirituality
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:26:37 -0700
Befor I ever heard his music I heard him talking about it on an
NPR interview then a bit of Stillwater.
As I listened to him talking I realized he was the producer of
all my then current faves - Yellow Moon - So - Oh Mercy - Josh
Tree
I liked em because of the spiritual content
I went right to the store and got a copy of Acadie and have since
bought every thing he is accociated with because .......
He ALWAYS has a spiritual influence.
Before I learned to hear his hands on the boxes - I could hear
his influence on the performers.
and when I raved (like a stark raving fan) to friends and
aquaintces and anyone who would listen about Himself what I raved
about was his spirituality
He was the first in a VERY long time to touch that in Bob Dylan
again
U2 - P. Gabriel - the Nevilles all had it, were doin' it
I assumed that the spirituality was what he had in common with
them - was why he wanted to work with them - he made it focused,
more deeply penetrating.
I have since bought everything he breathes on.
What he did with Emmylou - --- Ravishing
I was watching Sling Blade and got oh I don't know to that point
- not too far in and said to who I was watching with - "That
sure sounds like Daniel - if it isn't him it's somebody that sure
likes his sound" It wasn't too much further when it became
obvious that it was indeed ....
Do I sound like some young thing with a crush? I'm soon to be 50
and past crushes and don't become a fan of folks.
I think that spirituality is an occurance that requires both mind
and emotions to be interactivly responsive. That a bridge is
formed between the sub and the concious. and places within become
enlarged and accesses to those places are formed. And we become a
little or a lot transformed.
I think D. uses the direct contact to the inner that music
affords to perform the ministrations of his particular
priesthood.
I'd like to hear what he and M. Stipe would do together.
I'd like to hear him interviewd a length again.
Keepin the Faith
gail
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From: GMANMATT@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:41:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Nietzsche and Daniel Lanois
First of all, I'm looking for anyone who would be kind enough to
get me a
copy of the "Rocky World" video and the "Making of
the Wrecking Ball" video.
Yep, I'll trade, or however you want to work it. Give me an
e-mail and I'll
tell you what I've got.
NOW FOR THE GOOD STUFF!!!!
Music communicates that which is not able to be communicated
otherwise.
Daniel Lanois is among an elite group of musicians who are able
to
communicate a passion which we cannot get by conversation,
reading, or
watching T.V.
"We no longer esteem ourselves sufficiently when we
communicate ourselves.
Our true experiences are not at all garrulous. They could not
communicate
themselves even if they tried. That is because they lack the
right word.
Whatever we have words for, that we have already got beyond. In
all talk
there is a grain of contempt. Language, it seems, was invented
only for what
is average, medium, conmmunicable. With language the speaker
immediately
vulgarizes himself."
-Friedrich Nietzsche from "Twilight of the Idols"
Just listen to the "Death of a Train" solo, or the song
"For the Beauty of
Winona". Why is it good?? It is good because it is
passionate music!!
There is a requirement for skill, which Daniel Lanois possesses,
yet, we
know that skill is not what makes a song good. There are too many
skilled
musicians who lack passion. Passion takes over when the language
of music
speaks and you understand. The music is passionate, and you are
passionate
in return. It is like a relationship with the music. Passion
requires a
sensitivity to where the music wants to go. The music is the
dominating
force, you are merely it's tool. If the music wants space, you
must be
willing to give it space (as Lanois [Yoda] does so brilliantly on
"Wrecking
Ball"). The song must be able to stand on it's own without
the lyrics, and
that is where you come in. Daniel Lanois is able to allow the
music to stand
alone, and then compliment it with his lyrics. He has a
conversation with
the music while thinking of the lyrics, and the music agrees to
allow his
lyrics. He has many lyrics which the music did not agree to,
there is a
magical set of lyrics for each song. The music understands Lanois
past, his
person, his thoughts, his passions. He must come to understand
the music's
past, it's passions. He has been able to do so in a brilliant
fashion.
Technical skill is merely a tool he has used in learning what the
music
wants to do. The music already knows what he wants to do, it is
just waiting
for him to give it life.
"How little is required for pleasure! The sound of a
bagpipe. Without music,
life would be an error." -Nietzsche
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From: MAYDELOTT@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:41:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Dylan's "Time out of Mind"
Adding my compliments on your excellent site-work. While I agree
that
Daniel's latest Dylan production does not carry the large measure
of his
influence found elsewhere, I think it is perfectly balanced and
sensitively
attuned to the spirit and content of the new disc (with which I
am very
impressed).
At the top of my wish-list for Lanois collaborations is Neil
Young. Would
love to hear what they could do together. Cheers. Mike.
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 21:51:46 +0000
From: Dee Laret <deelaret@greatnorthern.net>
Subject: Interesting....
Hi Kenley- I used to live up in Ojai in my twenties. Up Hiway 33
and
five miles back in the hills past that huge reservoir that is now
a
gated community. It had some of the best hot springs along that
little 2
lane road. Unfortunately, the land got really misused. So, Thank
you
very much for the address to the studio he recorded at. It sounds
like
it is right in the middle of old Oxnard. I'll check it out and
report
back. Very Cool. In regards to spirituality and music, sure there
are
many artists that lack that ability to send chills down your
spine, but
who cares? We don't listen to those, do we? There are also
artists who
reach that apex, but not all the time. Some that really do it for
me are
Bonnie Raitt, Tori Amos, Billy Holiday, Duke Ellington the list
goes on.
I know the feeling of indescribable emotion that touches my heart
and
soul when I hear REALLY GREAT MUSIC. Daniel Lanois is a master. I
wish
he would give us fans more to thrive on.
dee
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From: CCM5@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:04:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tuning for 'Ballad of Marie Claire'
Hi! Anyone know the guitar tuning to "Ballad of Marie
Claire"? I am covering
it but don't quite have it down yet. I do know it is capoed
either 2nd or
4th. It isn't one of the tunings they mention in "Guitar
Player" (Low D) or
the Emmylou "F" tuning. Thanks!
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From: "Stefano Capobianco"
<STUFFYC@concentric.net>
Subject: daniel almost produced our record
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:16:16 -0700
This may be a farce to some of you guys out there, but as huge
Lanois fans,
my band decided to solicit Daniel's manager to see if he would be
available
to produce our second record. The band Little John(EMI Records)
before they
closed their doors. But he responded a few months later via
management
that because of delay's in the Dylan record and interest in his
next solo
CD, that he would be unavailable but that what they heard was a
good start.
Well we produced it ourselves and it's out now. The Little John
record
"We'll Always Have Ohio" is in stores across the
country if anyone is
interested. I love what's going on here with the newsletter and
hope that
this intrusion of shameless self promotion doesn't offend anyone,
thought
it might even interest some rock listeners. Thanks.
Stefano Capobianco (stefano@cranemountain.com)
Crane Mountain Records
PO Box 2177, Boston, MA 02106
(617) 666.3941
http://www.cranemountain.com
"Living The Possibility Of Peace Through Music"
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From: art@marinternet.com
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 17:27:26 -0700
Subject: new album question
Hi, I'm new to this newsgroup.
Been a lan-fan for years.
Used to play Acadie on non commercial radio when it first was
released,
etc.
Recently caught EmmyLou in Golden Gate Park doing her 'new'
album.
Most nice....
Only 1 question: who's jack frost productions and why does it
have the
same status (same sized letters) as Lanois on Dylan's new effort?
Thanks, and if you want to try something different and perhaps
unexplored, check out www.rock.net/rwi/bands/zero/
Bad Santa
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:34:07 -0800
From: David Faulhaber <david@bookstore.ucsc.edu>
Subject: every sailor asks the question...
Hi gang!
Here's one that has surely been covered in the past, but for my
sake and
that of others who are new to this newsletter I put forth the
following
question:
What is the source of the poetry that DL cites on Acadie ("I
laid awake all
night long, waiting for the sun to beat down on my head...)? Is
this his or
does it come from some other poet? Just one of those nagging yet
interesting questions I've been carrying around with me for the
past 10
years. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks a bunch,
Dave (david@bookstore.ucsc.edu)
p.s. and check this out: I live in Santa Cruz and several weeks
ago one of
our local record stores was having a
"going-out-of-business" sale; I
wandered in to see what they had left and saw a videodisk version
of Rocky
World. Unfortunately I was unable to purchase it at the time, but
I envy
whoever nabbed it. Tough luck, eh?
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:54:53 -0600 (EDT)
From: jo <jkauf03@emory.edu>
Subject: U2 ticket in Atlanta
Attention fellow Lanoisphiles and U2 buffs: I have an extra
ticket
for the U2 concert in Atlanta on Wednesday, November 26th. The
ticket
is in Section 118, row 16 in the lower aisle L24. The total price
(ticket plus charges) is $55.00. If anyone is interested, please
e-mail me at jkauf03@emory.edu. I'm just asking for the actual
price
of $55.00. Thanks, Joanne
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From: Sundance9@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 00:12:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Spirituality
As a deadhead, I can't help but mention the late, great Jerry
Garcia.
He used to do a phenomenal "Eyes of the Maker" with the
Jerry Garcia Band
(when not touring with the Dead), it is a tragedy that these two
greats never
got to work together, Garcia's improvisatory and jangly guitar
work would
have fit Lanois's sound superbly. If there are any other heads on
this list
with a nice version of the JGB doing "Eyes of the
Maker," I'd love to talk.
[Editor's Note: The song title is simply "The Maker"
off of Acadie]
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Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 20:33:55 -0400
From: Scott Downes <sjdownes@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Dylan's new album
I couldn't disagree with you more, John. Maybe you should give it
a couple
more listens :)
As a matter of fact, while I love Lanois' work, I have no
objection at all to
this album's sound. The album has a lot more grit and dirt than
Lanois often
shows, but it suits Dylan to a tee. What's more, it shows that
Lanois is
willing to go out on a ledge rather than taking a 'safe' route
(or reducing
himself to self-parody and stagnation). There's an immediacy to
the songs, a
very live performance kind of feel.
As far as the actual content of the album, the songs are all
fundamentally
blues songs, so you have to dig into it in a different way than
you would with
an Emmylou Harris album. A lush, reverb-laden arrangement for a
song called
"Cold Irons Bound" just wouldn't make any sense.
>Thanks again for all your work on Lanois. Found Dylan's new
album pretty
>uninteresting on any level. Only one listen so far. It may
grow on me. I
>hear a more muted influence of Lanois on the overall sound.
Am I wrong?
>Could be my ears or the way Dylan and or Lanois wanted it. I
wish Lanois
>had given it a real signature, like Harris's wonderful last
album. It
>would have given us all something worth listening to. Yours
Truly, John
--
Scott Downes
<http://www.mindspring.com/~sjdownes>
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:08:09 -1000
From: "'uhane" <duende@aloha.net>
Subject: Dylan's Time Loop
I have to respond to John S. Castleberry's thoughts on Dylan's
new
album:
Said Castleberry:
> Thanks again for all your work on Lanois. Found Dylan's new
album pretty
> uninteresting on any level. Only one listen so far. It may
grow on me. I
> hear a more muted influence of Lanois on the overall sound.
Am I wrong?
> Could be my ears or the way Dylan and or Lanois wanted it. I
wish Lanois
> had given it a real signature, like Harris's wonderful last
album. It
> would have given us all something worth listening to. Yours
Truly, John
Well, my response was quite the opposite of John's. I found the
album
profoundly interesting on many levels -- lyrically it's in the
same league
as Dylan's best. Musically, well Dylan is not Harris. I think
Harris needed
Lanois' presence & sound to help her stretch artistically.
But don't under-
estimate Lanois' presence on Dylan's album -- Lanois helps create
a musical
environment with lots of space, giving the listener room to
mentally ramble
& wander along with Dylan's Samuel Beckett-like lyrics. Maybe
you have to
be older to appreciate the emotional realm Dylan is exploring
here. Give
it a few more spins around the block. Give it time -- grow old
with it.
Shuffle down the street with no particular destination. One day
you'll
find these songs rooted in your soul.
"My heart's in the highlands.
I'm gonna go there when I feel good enough to go." Bob Dylan
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From: "Eric Terpening"
<eterp@pop.netaddress.usa.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:39:56 +0000
Subject: charlie rose intvw
Anyone catch Lanois recently on the Charlie Rose show on PBS?
Missed it. Comments, recap?
Eric
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:18:22 -0700
From: shu-shu@writeme.com (Shu-Shu Loh)
Subject: "Camilla"
In response to Joe Rubin's question of the film
"Camilla," (Number 90
digest), that is actually Jessica Tandy's last film. It was
released a few
years ago for about a week or two in L.A. and then it
disappeared. In
other words, I didn't get the chance to see it. Hope this helps.
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From: "Thomas S. Wilson" <wilson@Ra.MsState.EDU>
Subject: ACADIE: People in NYC
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:21:53 -0500 (CDT)
Hello... I was just writing to the list because I will be moving
from the
wonderful world of Starkville Mississippi to start a job in
midtown
manhattan, and I know a total of about two or three people in the
area.
If there are any people on here from the area looking to play
some music,
I will be leaving behind a band, and bringing myself, my guitar,
violin,
and will move up my studio if I find a big enough place. I also
have no
place to live, and if there's anyone looking for a roomate, I'm
checking
for some groups of people with whom I might have a remote chance
to being
compatable with before I search the want ads...
thanks a lot for letting me blab about something only moderately
related.
Scott Wilson
wilson@ece.msstate.edu
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:09:40 -0500
From: Ian McCausland <talk@ian.mb.ca>
Subject: More Lanois stuff...
further to his family...
DL also has a sister who's name escapes me right now.. she plays
the
bass and was in a band here in Canada called CRash Vegas at least
for
the first album... the whole family is very musical.. I seem to
remeber
seeing a CBC docu. on him and his family.. the home basement
studio in
Hamilton which is where he did alot of those amazing albums with
eno...
is just a 70's style rec room turned into a studio... I somehow
imagined
a zen like post modern space when lsietning to Apollo etc.. but
alas it
wasn't so... I have also seen in some stores a VHS video
collection
/docu on him as well right around the Acadie release...
I just returned from a driving trip from Winnipeg to Edmonton,
the
foothills the rockes and back.. and I must tell you both solo
albus make
for the best soundtrack to a trip like that! Its chock full of
lyrical
references to Canada and the mixture of genres is indeed also so
very
Canadain... I encourage all who drive out here to bring his tapes
along!
Ian
www.ian.mb.ca
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ACADIE is released for the personal use of readers. No commercial
use may
be made of the material unless permission is granted by the
author.
Kenley Neufeld, ACADIE editor
http://www.sfbayconcerts.com/kenley.html
kenley@sfbayconcerts.com
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